Curse

Darkpower Alchemist · Jul 30, 2007, 11:49 PM // 23:49

It seems the usual suspects are all in this thread already, so I'll add to the pot. Monks and Rits have different jobs. As obvious as that statement sounds, it seems that all have seemed to throw that little bit of info out the window in some of your better arguments.

To put out individual skills and compare one to the other, or the healing prayers line to the restoration line, and to the protection line is fruitless dribble.

The main point that one should argue is why would a rit want to be a monk? Why would you want to be the healer when the healer gets all the blame? Ritualists are natural support characters, and so are monks, but not in the exact same vein. A channeling/spirit spammer hybrid does alot more on a field,imo, than that same rit being a restoration rit in PvE. In PvP, the rit plays a similar role- not saying the rit isn't capable of being a healer, but it's just so much better at multitasking that it shouldn't jump into the healers only pool.

Ritualists that provide damage buffs and spike attacks seem to be more useful in that capacity than them trying to do what the protection/LoD monk does well already. Rits as healers in a pinch is fine, but not as the pimary healer/protection caster. Maybe in the case of a 3rd healer, but not as the solo or secondary healer in a 1 monk team. Multitasking Rits FTW!

Batou of Nine · Jul 31, 2007, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Wow, old thread, what ressurected it?

Oh well i haven't given my 2 cents yet, let me fulfill my "i must be heard" impulse. LoL.

In a 2 healer party. A resto rit can easily outheal a heal hench. Efficiency wise, they can easily fulfil as the secondary heal/support. Touching on the OP's original point, no i would NOT pick a healer hench over a rit healer. A human player, i would probably pick a monk over the rit, but in a pug situation its still a gamble, as actual heal potential comes down to the person's skill and knowledge of the roll.

I can honestly say that myself and many others are probably 10x better restoration healers then half of all monks out there. And again that comes down to player skill. That said, i have enough knowledge of both classes to say that i cannot personally create a restoration rit build that could outheal any of my pure heal builds on my monk. Now that is in regards to only my personal skill with both professions.

I bet there are some players out there that are better at ritualist build creation then i am and have a restoration build comparable to my best heal monk build. Yes, fundimentally, the class was NOT created with such a pure support focus as the monk was. The ritualist is kind of like the jack-of-all-trades for caster professions, can heal, support, dmg, etc.

Back to the OP's thoughts, although i disagree with a few points (like, SpiritLight being the best heal in GW, or that a restoration build is flat out better then a heal build, or his build that includes channeling skills), i still think it was silly of a pug to pick a henchy over a human, especially one that could fulfill as the 2ndary healer. Yes, his build was shotty, so that doesn't really help support his claims...

If GW:EN somehow introduces skills to better sustain a restoration healer, in terms of energy management, casting speed, and healing potentials, then Rits could possibly move into actual PvP healing, but i doubt this will happen.

I'll end with this: No, a ritualist can never completely take over the roll as the primary healer in *PvP* as their skills are not designed for action that is that fast paced. However, in *PvE*, i believe they can easily fulfill the roll as secondary healer in any group, and be successful enough to be used in high pressure *PvE* situations.

cheers.

Fishmonger · Jul 31, 2007, 02:44 PM // 14:44

Well, if the GW:EN skills are actually real on guildwiki, we (rits)don't have much hope. All of the restoration skills seem almost useless as far as I can see, but Energetic was Lee Wa looks good as long as it isn't elite

Monks on the other hand seem to be gettin some fairly useful skills. Oh well, guess we'll see who wins when GW:EN comes out =D